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Will Nick Williams be the Phillies Opening Day starter? (Frank Klose/SportsTalkPhilly)

By Tim Kelly, Sports Talk Philly editor 

In 16 days, the Philadelphia Phillies will travel to Atlanta to face Freddie Freeman and the Atlanta Braves. Here's a look at what Gabe Kapler's first regular season lineup could look like. 

1. Cesar Hernandez - Second Base

Carlos Santana has the career leadoff splits of .252/.371/.470, with 23 home runs, 69 RBIs and 91 walks. Kapler has hit him in the leadoff spot at times this spring, and probably will during the season. But Hernandez had the highest full-season 2017 on-base percentage (.373) of any player on the Phillies roster.  He also has a career average of .288 hitting out of the leadoff spot.

One thing that could make Hernandez an even more dangerous leadoff hitter is his untapped potential as a basestealer. Though Hernandez has elite speed, he often got himself in trouble on the basepaths during the 2016 season, as he only converted on 57 percent of his 30 stolen base attempts. In 2017, he became less of a liability on the basepaths, as he converted on 15 of 20 basestealing attempts. Still, it felt like he was being too cautious when you consider that he was probably the fastest player on the major league roster. It will be interesting to see if a new coaching staff is able to tap into that potential.

2. Carlos Santana - First Base

Santana does a little bit of everything at the plate, which makes him a valuable tool for Kapler to maneuver with in the lineup. He could, as mentioned above, hit leadoff. Realistically, he probably could (and probably will) hit in all four of the top spots in the lineup during the 2018 season. The soon-to-be 32-year-old walked 88 times in 2017, which was actually a decline from what he had done over the previous two years. But it still trounces Hernandez, who has led the Phillies in walks three consecutive seasons, and likely will in 2018, as he's projected to walk 90 times in 2018. When you couple that with his pop, a one-two punch of Hernandez and Santana will set the heart-of-the-order up very well: often the first two hitters in the lineup will get on base, unless Santana has already brought Hernandez home and is standing on second base himself. 

3. Rhys Hoskins - Left Field 

In my initial Opening Day lineup projection, Hoskins hit in the No. 2 hole, something he told SportsTalkPhilly.com this offseason that he would be fine with doing. It wouldn't be surprising at all if Hoskins ends up hitting there for a bulk of his at-bats in the 2018 season. Things, as he himself said, are likely to fluctuate under Kapler. But the idea of Hoskins regularly coming to the plate with two runners already on base in front of him doesn't sound like a bad one either.

4. Nick Williams - Right Field 

On Opening Day, the Phillies will take on the Braves, who are likely to send Julio Teheran to the mound. For the growing number of people that feel that Aaron Altherr could have a breakout season if given the bulk of the starts in right field, I'm concerned about his ability to stay healthy, but I don't disagree with you. This offseason, I even penned a piece suggesting that I'm not sure the Phillies are as high on Williams as some fans are. 

Even with all of that said, against a right-handed pitcher - even though both of the two hit better against right-handed pitchers in 2017 - the guess here is that Williams will be the Opening Day starter.

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Maikel Franco is entering a make-or-break season. (Frank Klose/SportsTalkPhilly)

5. Maikel Franco - Third Base

To remain in the No. 5 spot in the lineup, Franco will not only have to greatly outperform his 2017 numbers. Even his ZIPS projection for 2018 - .266/.317/.464 with 25 home runs and 96 RBIs - would only be a slight improvement over his 2016 season, which former manager Pete Mackanin suggested was disappointing. Heck, even if Franco does break out, he's likely going to lose at-bats when Scott Kingery is called up, because Hernandez is likely to still be producing at a high clip. 

The truth is, Franco is one of the hardest players in the MLB to predict heading into 2018. On one hand, it may be a mistake to continue to read into the 80-game stint that he had in 2015, when he slashed .280/.343/.497 with 14 home runs, 50 RBIs, a 1.5 fWAR and 129 wRC+. Over the past two seasons, while he's flashed moments of brilliance, Franco has more often been a player that puts the ball on the ground too frequently to be successful. On the other hand, he's still only 25, and adjustments to your approach at the plate aren't easy to make. With his third hitting coach in as many years, perhaps Franco, with a more closed stance and emphasis on putting the ball in the air, will finally break out in 2018.

Of course, the possibility also exists that Franco bounces back from a disastrous 2017 season in which he posted a -22.4 oWAR, but also doesn't have a breakout season.  A season where Franco occasionally looks on the cusp of putting things all together, but performs like the 2016 version of himself a majority of the time, is perhaps the most likely scenario from here. 

All of that is a long way of saying it's virtually impossible to effectively place Franco in a lineup. Based off of his past production, he's probably a better fit to hit sixth of seventh. But if he continues to produce at the clip that he has for all of his major league experience excluding 2015, there's a very good chance he's not in the lineup frequently once Kingery is ultimately called up. If he breaks out, he could end up being the team's cleanup hitter. Good luck guessing what the Phillies get from Franco in 2018. 

6. Odubel Herrera- Center Field 

In my initial Opening Day lineup projection, I had Herrera hitting in the cleanup spot. I got some pushback for that, but if you consider that Hoskins and Santana may very well hit higher in the lineup than the cleanup spot, it's not that crazy of an idea. With the exception of Altherr and Williams, Herrera's .452 slugging percentage was the highest of any player that spent the bulk of the 2017 season with the Phillies. Altherr and Williams will be competing for at-bats in right field in 2018, and as mentioned above, it's anyone's guess what the Phillies will get from Franco. 

So while I stand by the idea that Herrera, who doubled 42 times in 2017, will hit in the cleanup spot at some point during the 2018 season, I'm not sure it will happen on Opening Day. If Aaron Altherr starts on Opening Day, my guess would be that he'll hit cleanup. In that scenario, Herrera likely would be Kapler's No. 5 hitter, breaking up Altherr and Franco. However, with Williams in the lineup, Franco would break up the two lefties. 

Of anyone likely to start in over 150 games for the Phillies in 2018, Herrera's spot in the lineup may fluctuate the most. If he struggles like he did last May - when he hit .183 with 30 strikeouts, he'll likely slide down or altogether out of the lineup. If he catches fire like he did in the second half of the 2017 season - when he slashed .323/.378/.551 - chances are he'll be hitting in one of the top four spots in the lineup. On Opening Day, he'll likely hit in the fifth or sixth spot. 

7. Jorge Alfaro - Catcher

Like Franco, Alfaro is hard to predict. 

After a strong offensive season in 2016 at Double-A Reading, Alfaro disappointed in 324 at-bats at Triple-A Lehigh Valley in 2017, slashing .241/.291/.358 with just seven home runs and 43 RBIs. However, at the major league level, Alfaro hit .318 with five home runs in 107 at-bats in 2017. 

Much has been made of the impact that Santana's presence will have on Franco, but the Phillies probably hope that Santana's approach rubs off on Alfaro. Not only is Santana a former catcher, but he's 16th among active players in career walks. Alfaro, in 431 at-bats between Triple-A and the majors in 2017, walked just 19 times. That obviously has to change, especially since Alfaro doesn't project to be a player that hits for an especially high average.  

8. Aaron Nola - Pitcher

Baseball Musings has a tool that allows you to build the best lineup possible. You simply punch in a player's OBA and slugging percentage and it builds you the 30 most effective lineup combinations. I used the tool to build 60 potential lineups for the Phillies. The first 30 - which are based off of each player's 2017 production at the major league level - all have Nola hitting eighth:

Baseball Musings Tool

It's worth noting that Williams, Alfaro, Crawford and Hoskins didn't spend the full 2017 season at the major league level. So the second 30 lineup combinations are based off of Steamer's 2018 projections. Nola, again, hits eighth in every possible lineup combination:

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It's possible that on Opening Day, Kapler goes with a tamer lineup and eases in some of the less traditional looks throughout the season. But the Phillies didn't build a sabmermetrics-heavy organization, one that now has a coaching staff to match it's front-office, to look the other way on data like this. Don't be surprised if Nola hits eighth on Opening Day. The pitcher hitting in the eight hole will certainly happen throughout the course of the 2018 season. 

9. J.P. Crawford - shortstop 

Not only do the Phillies have a manager that's going to be willing to experiment with the idea of hitting the pitcher eighth, but they have an ideal position player to hit in the nine hole in Crawford. Tony La Russa would often hit his pitcher in the No. 8 hole, because he "wanted to get his best hitter more at-bats." Joe Maddon, who Kapler has spoken highly of, does the same thing. Crawford may not hit at an especially high clip, but he's still going to get on base because he walks a ton. 

Kapler explained to MLB.com's Todd Zolecki this past weekend what was behind a decision to hit Crawford ninth in the lineup: 

"We want more runners on base at the top of the lineup," Kapler said. "We're utilizing J.P.'s superior on-base skills. That's the intent there. It's possible that we use a similar kind of lineup during the season. We don't want to do anything for the first time in the season that we didn't do in practice here."

It's hard to read too much into the 23-game stint Crawford had at the major leagues in September. Clearly, Crawford is going to have to hit better than .214, which was the average that he posted in his first 70 major league at-bats. He did post an incredible 18.4 percent walk percentage in his first 70 at-bats, which is one of the reasons that the Phillies like him so much. He's not going to continue to walk at that rate, but ZIPS projects that he'll walk 76 times this year, which would be way more than any player on the team did in 2017. 

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The Nuggets

  • Baseball Reference has a cool tool that allows you to adjust a players stats out to a full season if they were called up in season. Here's Rhys Hoskins' adjusted stats for 2017: .259/.396/.620 with 58 home runs, 155 RBIs and a 1.014 OPS.
  • When Hoskins starts in left field on Opening Day for the Phillies, he will be the eighth Opening Day starter in eight years. He joins Raul Ibanez, John Mayberry Jr., Dom Brown, Tony Gwynn Jr., Ben Revere, Cedric Hunter and Howie Kendrick.
  • Matt Stairs looks like he could still hit one, "deep into the night:"
  • The Phillies most common starters at each position in 2017 combined for 297 total walks. ZIPS estimates that the team's projected lineup in 2018 - Altherr/Williams split time in right, Franco at third - will walk a total of 427 times.
  • Carlos Santana is 16th among active players in career walks with 726. To put in perspective how young the rest of the Phillies roster is, Cesar Hernandez has the next most career walks at 185, which is tied for 97th among active players. Where do some former Phillies rank? Jayson Werth is 12th, Ryan Howard is 17th and Chase Utley is 18th. 
  • Fun fact: per Baseball Reference, if John Mayberry Jr. would have gotten a full season of at-bats against just LHP in 2011, he would have hit 43 home runs.
  • Arizona Diamondbacks RHP Zack Greinke saw his average fastball velocity dip slightly last year, going from 92 in four consecutive seasons to 91. Nick Piecoro of AZ Central Sports says that Greinke is throwing in the mid-80s this spring. Robert Murray of FanRag Sports reported this offseason that the Phillies checked in on Greinke this offseason, but that talks 'ended quickly.' Perhaps that's a good thing.  

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JIM

Williams , Franco, Alfaro, Crawford and Hoskins are all questions marks in my opinion.

My explanation for this Williams currently hitting about 160 in spring training. Franco has lifetime 240 plus average. Larry Bowa always said look at the back of the bubble gum card. His history is bad. Alfaro never hit for high average in minors , power is their but batting average no. Crawford is one season removed from hitting , what 235 in AAA. Hoskins and this will be the big surprise for everyone , they figured him out late in September and his Batting Average nose dived and so did the Homers.

Kingery , is a hitter and if the Phillies are going to score more than 1 or 2 runs a game against quality pitching they will need him.

Seth Beer is silver slugger potential for 2018 college season and Phillies need to make the Clemson star their #3 pick in June. They have enough pitchers in system but no real silver sluggers.

Machado , will be wanted by everyone and Harper as well they might not get either but Beer is right there at #3. Take him.

JIM

Kingery, a hit today against Twins in first inning . Flathery if Phillies let him go will be picked up probably by Baltimore. Floriman, is good but Phillies should try to deal Flathery or somehow keep him . I would keep Rosales as well , also probably a better hitter than Franco and Crawford.

I have heard over and over from Phillie fans the Phillies do not have any real major league level hitters. 300 hitter is what I'm talking about , They are one of several teams in both the National and American League do not have a real hitter who goes 1/3 consistently.

Mike Trout is rare and he is up for grabs in 2019/20 , this is the type of player the Phillies lack. Abreu, remember him , he was last hitter of this type . Herrera is close but did not hit well last May. The rest of the lineup weak and inconsistent.

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